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Communication is an issue here. If a quotes section was NOT going to be featured on articles, then you should have informed Dalek Ubik earlier. He left a message on the General Discussion Board in August (titled "Quote section") asking if a quote section could be added to the articles, and based on your reply I think you misunderstood his message. He asked if a quotes section could be added to articles and you responded explicitly referring to the singular quote at the top of the article, as if he was asking if he could add introductory quotes to the rest of the character articles, when he wasn't. You did not say "no, quotes sections are not a part of the page template, so don't add any" or, if the page template didn't exist at that point (I think it didn't, though I might be wrong, sorry), "no, i'm planning on adding a guide for the page layout soon and I don't see a quote section being featured in there, sorry." As a result, Dalek Ubik has spent the past 2 months combing through the official translation and adding key quotes to articles for nothing, and this could have been avoided if you had said an explicit "yes" or "no" in regards to whether or not a quotes section could be added to character articles when he asked you back in August, which is a regrettable situation.
 
Communication is an issue here. If a quotes section was NOT going to be featured on articles, then you should have informed Dalek Ubik earlier. He left a message on the General Discussion Board in August (titled "Quote section") asking if a quote section could be added to the articles, and based on your reply I think you misunderstood his message. He asked if a quotes section could be added to articles and you responded explicitly referring to the singular quote at the top of the article, as if he was asking if he could add introductory quotes to the rest of the character articles, when he wasn't. You did not say "no, quotes sections are not a part of the page template, so don't add any" or, if the page template didn't exist at that point (I think it didn't, though I might be wrong, sorry), "no, i'm planning on adding a guide for the page layout soon and I don't see a quote section being featured in there, sorry." As a result, Dalek Ubik has spent the past 2 months combing through the official translation and adding key quotes to articles for nothing, and this could have been avoided if you had said an explicit "yes" or "no" in regards to whether or not a quotes section could be added to character articles when he asked you back in August, which is a regrettable situation.
   
We should make things clear to users '''right from the outset''' so that they don't go through any wasted effort with the articles, like with what has happened now and previously with Recludam reorganising Griffith's page (which Besty gave him permission to do after I reverted his organisational changes on Skull Knight's page and we had a civil discussion about the matter on my wall) and Judeau's page. (Which was done without permission, but since there were no objections from you at the time to the changes on Griffith's page, Recludam couldn't have possibly known that what he was doing was not approved and should have been reverted.) What should have happened there is a follow up discussion after Rec had finished revamping Griffith's page, and I should have been the one to initiate that since only me and Besty seemed to have communicated with Rec about it beforehand - ideally, though, every admin should have involved themselves in the discussion '''right from the outset''' on my wall, including yourself, and Rec would have avoided making layout changes to Griffith's page entirely if you had said "no", as was your stance on the matter,  resulting in no wasted effort. The edit war that that situation devolved into was also really unfortunate and resulted in Rec (seemingly) leaving the wikia, which sucks. It was also completely preventable, which is why I bring it up now, since this is a similar communication breakdown leading to wasted effort instance, but with much less drama involved. (thank goodness)
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We should make things clear to users '''right from the outset''' so that they don't go through any wasted effort with the articles, like with what has happened now and previously with Recludam reorganising Griffith's page (which Besty gave him permission to do after I reverted his organisational changes on Skull Knight's page and we had a civil discussion about the matter on my wall) and Judeau's page. (Which was done without permission, but since there were no objections from you at the time to the changes on Griffith's page, Recludam couldn't have possibly known that what he was doing was not approved and should have been reverted.) What should have happened there is a follow up discussion after Rec had finished revamping Griffith's page, and I should have been the one to initiate that since only me and Besty seemed to have communicated with Rec about it beforehand - ideally, though, every admin should have involved themselves in the discussion '''right from the outset''' on my wall, including yourself, and Rec would have avoided making layout changes to Griffith's page entirely if you had said "no", as was your stance on the matter,  resulting in no wasted effort. The edit war that that situation devolved into was also really unfortunate and resulted in Rec (seemingly) leaving the wikia, which sucks. It was also completely preventable, which is why I bring it up now, since this is a similar instance of  a communication breakdown leading to wasted effort, but with much less drama involved. (thank goodness)
   
 
Anyway, sorry for making you read all that Eck. Thanks for working hard on the page template and everything. We just need to be clear to users before they expend effort. It saves a lot of potential frustration for everybody.<ac_metadata title="Quote Sections and Communication"> </ac_metadata>
 
Anyway, sorry for making you read all that Eck. Thanks for working hard on the page template and everything. We just need to be clear to users before they expend effort. It saves a lot of potential frustration for everybody.<ac_metadata title="Quote Sections and Communication"> </ac_metadata>

Latest revision as of 23:24, October 21, 2016

Eck, if you're going to remove the quotes section from Void's page then you should go through and delete the quotes section from every page that has one. I can do that if you'd like.

Communication is an issue here. If a quotes section was NOT going to be featured on articles, then you should have informed Dalek Ubik earlier. He left a message on the General Discussion Board in August (titled "Quote section") asking if a quote section could be added to the articles, and based on your reply I think you misunderstood his message. He asked if a quotes section could be added to articles and you responded explicitly referring to the singular quote at the top of the article, as if he was asking if he could add introductory quotes to the rest of the character articles, when he wasn't. You did not say "no, quotes sections are not a part of the page template, so don't add any" or, if the page template didn't exist at that point (I think it didn't, though I might be wrong, sorry), "no, i'm planning on adding a guide for the page layout soon and I don't see a quote section being featured in there, sorry." As a result, Dalek Ubik has spent the past 2 months combing through the official translation and adding key quotes to articles for nothing, and this could have been avoided if you had said an explicit "yes" or "no" in regards to whether or not a quotes section could be added to character articles when he asked you back in August, which is a regrettable situation.

We should make things clear to users right from the outset so that they don't go through any wasted effort with the articles, like with what has happened now and previously with Recludam reorganising Griffith's page (which Besty gave him permission to do after I reverted his organisational changes on Skull Knight's page and we had a civil discussion about the matter on my wall) and Judeau's page. (Which was done without permission, but since there were no objections from you at the time to the changes on Griffith's page, Recludam couldn't have possibly known that what he was doing was not approved and should have been reverted.) What should have happened there is a follow up discussion after Rec had finished revamping Griffith's page, and I should have been the one to initiate that since only me and Besty seemed to have communicated with Rec about it beforehand - ideally, though, every admin should have involved themselves in the discussion right from the outset on my wall, including yourself, and Rec would have avoided making layout changes to Griffith's page entirely if you had said "no", as was your stance on the matter,  resulting in no wasted effort. The edit war that that situation devolved into was also really unfortunate and resulted in Rec (seemingly) leaving the wikia, which sucks. It was also completely preventable, which is why I bring it up now, since this is a similar instance of  a communication breakdown leading to wasted effort, but with much less drama involved. (thank goodness)

Anyway, sorry for making you read all that Eck. Thanks for working hard on the page template and everything. We just need to be clear to users before they expend effort. It saves a lot of potential frustration for everybody.

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