I made this beat by remixing BassNectar with Berserk. Guts vs. Griffith
What's on your mind?
I recently read berserk and I partially spoiled myself and how the story goes, and I was amazed and pulled into the world of berserk. The things going through my head are like "Wow this is the most realisitic medieval story I've ever read" and "this is my favorite seinen, next to Punpun. And when I heard that Miura passed away, it shocked me. I thought of the fanbase on how they're so dedicated and patient on the mangaka writing chapters for months and years on end. And this made me feel even sorry to the fans who've been there since and beginning or been there for so long. Also, this makes me feel bad for the people who don't know of how amazing the artwork and story is. I feel bad for Miura for not being recognized for his hard work. So overall, I'm sorry for all the fans on Miura's passing and their intense and amazing dedication to the series. You all have my respect for dedication waiting for such an amazing mangaka
On May 20, 2021, publisher Hakusensha announced that Miura had died on May 6th, 2021 due to an acute aortic dissection.
He will live on through all who have been and will be impacted by his various works of art.
Rest in peace Kentaro Miura, thank you for BERSERK. Struggle, contend, wriggle.
Confused to how much seasons there is of this.
Got season 1 but amazon have season 2 with 13 episodes but I read somewhere that is has 24 episodes
Am I right in thinking season 2 is berserk 2016?
If only they had asked wiki users. Images taken from the first Google result they came across, blatant lies (apparently, the Berserk world has lizard people aplenty) and Totally Berserk References (tm) everywhere. I very much suspect the writer watched this video and called it a day.
Here's the article: https://www.fandom.com/articles/dark-souls-sekiro-berserk
I have some free time, so I'm going to analyse it. Keep in mind I'm not well-versed on the Souls series, so I'll try to avoid commenting on them. Please, feel free to correct me if I make any mistakes.
"Dark Souls is one of the most original game series out there. It’s influenced so many modern games'" - Citation needed.
"we liken it to a modern (albeit extremely dark) Zelda." - "We?"
"Berserk is a Japanese take on Medieval Europe" - Nope. It's Kentaro Miura and a story set in an European-ish landmass in a time that seems to go from Medieval times to Modern times.
"Hidetaka Miyazaki, the mastermind behind the Souls series, is self-admittedly a massive Berserk fan." - Citation needed. At best, we know he owns Berserk tomes.
"the anime" - Which one?
"here are the main elements Miyazaki clearly had in his head when he was making the greatest modern action RPG." - Opinion + mind reading.
"Guts in his Berserker armour, in which he takes on the form of a wolf or wild dog." - Because explaining what the Beast of Darkness is would be a hard task.
"Artorias, also associated with the wolf" - "The"?
"Both characters were knights for their king. Guts for Griffith" - It seems that Griffith got his own kingdom during the Golden Age!
"the more he uses his Berserker armour, the more he’ll be irreversibly transformed" - "Transformed" isn't the word I'd use here.
"He has to be a lone wolf at that point; to be around innocent people when demons attack would be irresponsible." - Guts becomes a "lone wolf" to get his revenge and find out about how to summon the God Hand. Over time, he becomes what we see in the Black Swordsman arc and Lost Children chapter.
"Though in Berserk this item has massive importance, being what ascends Griffith into the demon Femto." - I know this isn't an article for fans, but I don't think that explaining what actually happened would hurt. No, the Crimson Beherit didn't turn Griffith into Femto.
"These lizard people were abundant in the Berserk manga, and you don’t have to go farther than the first episode of the anime to find one" - Yup. A single serpent apostle seemingly makes for "abundant lizard people". I wouldn't have been surprised if this had also included the crocodile pisacha as well with that "Smaller lizard soldiers existed in the manga" line. Also, which anime is this refering to?
"Both the Capra Demon and Taurus Demon have their counterparts in the Berserk anime, the latter of which is an important demon who wants to serve the God Hand. Berserk even has a dragon that perches itself atop a castle. There’s the equivalent of a Moonlight Butterfly in the manga, as well as a Hydra." - Goodness gracious. As if Berserk happened to be the only work in the world which features dragons and hydras. This lumps together an apostle, a pseudoapostle, a dragon that only appears in a single panel and... a reference to Rosine? Also, which anime is this refering to?
"We also like to think Bazuso, from the first episode of the Berserk anime, is somewhat of a cross between Siegmeyer of Catarina and Horus." - Amusingly, and as far as I know, this is the only officially aknowledged reference to Berserk from the Souls series. Those "we" people can't stop wondering now and start learning about how there are different Berserk anime adaptations.
"He also attached a repeating crossbow to his wrist" - From the current version of this weapon's article: "Easy to mount on Guts' mechanical arm".
"we have absolutely no problems with Miyazaki continuing to slot Berserk flavour into Sekiro" - Another "we".
Food for thought: Number of times the word manga pops up: 5. Number of times the word "anime" appears: 6. Number of times the word "anime" refers to one of the adaptations: 1. And that's an allusion to the 2016 one.
Who set Flora's tree house on fire, when Griffith apostles marched to get her?
Why didn't Skull Knight save her? He did that before when savings Guts and Casca from the eclipse.
Flora made a huge wall of flame to help Guts and his companions escape, She could have used that in the first place as a line of defense against Griffith apostles.
Did Flora set herself and her house on fire?
Why Griffith wants to capture Flora or kill her?
I can see the time and how it s moving (with different speed) but how to move in it (back and forward :) I suppose - somebody must know :) Please share the secret :)
OK so I've been acting completely restlessly when it comes to Berserk--with Private Investigators' type of string theories on my wall, desperately trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together--because I love it so much and I just don't understand what happened 1000 years ago that led to this moment.
I've studied countless discussions, coming to such conclusions as: 1) Gaiseric is the Skull Knight, 2) Void somehow betrayed the old King, 3) The entire manga revolves around the One Night where Gaiseric's entire Utopia got smashed by the previous God Hand, 4) We're being lied to in some way.
After countless sleepless nights, I actually came across a fact that I felt really stupid for not noticing before, and I'd like to share it with you because I believe that it is one of the missing pieces of the puzzle. It proves that 1) either we have been lied to this entire time or 2) something has happened and it's been right before our eyes this entire time. It might just be extremely well hidden.
OK so here it is. Void mentions the all mighty law that a God Hand is born every 216 years or so, right? And he says that the fifth god hand gets to be reincarnated, every 1080 years or so, right? The thing is, first of all I feeled like Griffith/Femto is getting played like a chump and he knows it (which is common to every biggest villain in a manga, take Madara in Naruto, Acacia in Toriko, etc etc). Second of all, we know that what led to this entire situation with the God Hand being a**holes, the Skull Knight looking to get revenge, and the law of causality "repeating what once happened" came from 1000 years ago. Why? Well because it's mentionned hundreds of time. Zodd says to the Skull Knight "You've been facing us for a millennia now", it's mentionned a couple of times that the Skull Knight/Gaiseric's story dates back 1000 years, so we can assume to some extent that yes the first God Hand was Void (seeing as how Skull Boi immediately goes for his head when he pierces through the eclipse.)
BUT ONE FACT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
Did you find it yet, or do you feel like I'm messing with you? See that's what I was saying, all the facts may be in front of you, but you might not actually notice them right then and there. OK HERE IT IS. If the timeline of causality begun 1080 years ago, which it most likely did, and the Fist God Hand, or Void, was born during Gaiseric's time, then there is a HUGE 216+ years worth hole in the timeline that we're not being told exists. Why? Well if we consider that Gaiseric's compared to Griffith and Guts' time is year -1080 in the causality timeline--which would only make sense because Void says a God hand is reincarnated every 1000 year after the five God hands are created--then the second God hand (perhaps the guy that like to mess with your mind) would have been created in year -864, the Third in year -648 (so the princess of whores or whatever), the Fourth (or mouth boi) in year -432... AND HERE WE ARE! There is a huge hole in the timeline.
So I personally believe that the entire story doesn't actually revolve around Guts and Griffith, because that's soo classic of mangakas to tell us "Here is the story, aren't these two characters great?" and then at the very ending of the last arc you realise it's never actually been about them and they're gonna have to take care of some 1000 year old BS that they had nothing to do with in the first place. I think that Void is behind everything, and that he maticulously assembled this specific team of God Hand to have his causality BS and trick Griffith in following some kind of evil plan he's hatched since back when he was in Gaiseric's dungeon (I mean look at his face, it's so obvious he's been tortured senselessly!). And I think that there is a HUGE piece of the puzzle that we're missing, and perhaps with the power of friendship (ASSEMBLE FAIRY TAIL GUILD, WE WILL USE THE POWER OF LUCY'S BOOBS TO VANQUISH EVIL) we could all find it together and bring an end to my sleepless nights.
Anyways, if you guys have some insights or if you have already gone further than I have, please help me sleep! I need to sleep people hahaha I really need to figure out what's going on. Arigatooo mashitaa
I love one of Guts' quotes; "You have the strongest armor because you are the weakest but I can't remember when he said that... Can someone help me out?
This may come handy for those without space at home and adding HQ images for the wiki: https://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/2558/sdcc-2017-dark-horse-acquires-digital-rights-berse
I think we could with Navigation templates for non cannon/video game characters and locations.
its been a while, and i have been thinking about how old casca is
We currently have a page that lists all so called Minor Characters, personally I feel this is completely unnecessary for to me all lives, I mean all characters matter and just on many other wiki's all of them deserve their own place especially when most of them are bound to appear again, I mean the secondary prostitutes both appear in tower of conviction arc and in the fantasia arc. Also fiery already made links to them in one of her recent edits. Also if all of them have their own page this will make it so much easier for me to update all the character and chapter pages next year. So if anyone has objections to them getting their own page vouch them here, if this doesn't happen then next month (a week from now) I will start making them.
i think the studio doing berserk should really put the effort and time into the Falcon of the millennuim empire, what do you guys think
If you wish to see the context behind this discussion, you can visit the related thread on Eck's wall. However, it is not necessary to do so.
So, for the past 2 months certain character articles on the wikia have had a quotes section, which were contributed to almost exclusively by user Dalek Ubik. Admin Eck recently decided to remove the quotes sections from these articles because the page template/layout guide for character articles does not include a quotes section.
This thread is, first and foremost, to discuss whether we should reintroduce the deleted quotes sections to the character articles.
Looking at this from a balanced perspective, key quotes from specific points in the story (from the official translation, of course) show a character's personality well, and are a "nice thing to read" - if you excuse my poor wording. However, they are quite superfluous, and as you can see from Griffith's page, when a character has a lot of quotes the section can take up a lot of space. While the quotes themselves are really nice, the formatting looks strange with all of them directly below each other.
I've sat on this topic for a few days - not wanting Dalek Ubik's hard work to be thrown out - and i've come up with an alternate suggestion that does not involve discarding all the quotes, but keeps the quotes sections out of the character articles:
Currently, we have an "introductory quote" at the top of many character articles - Eck has set this up and has chosen quotes that best reflect the character's personality - they "summarise" a character's opinions and personality as much as a quote can.
I think it would be nice to have an "introductory quote" at the top of manga episode articles as well - the quote chosen would either be a key quote from the most impactful moment in the episode, or would "summarise" an episode's events. That way, there is consistency between the character articles and the manga articles, readers get to read a cool quote, and, since Dalek Ubik added quotes to the quote sections that were key to the characters/events, we don't have to throw out any of his work!
For example, in Zodd's quote section we have his prophecy to Guts - "If you consider this man your true friend, and regard him as a brother, then know this. When this man's ambition crumbles, it is your destiny to face your death. A death you can never escape!" He says this to Guts in episode 5 of the manga. It's the key point and the focus of the episode.
If we had it at the top of the article, it would look like this. (I've set this up temporarily for the sake of discussion.) This quote is a little longer.
To look at a more typically sized example, i've set up another model for episode 32. This one is a quote from Griffith's section this time - "you are too accustomed to scheming from behind your desks. This is war; there are no spectator seats on the battlefield." The central plot point this episode is Griffith killing the Queen of Midland and the nobles that oppose him - it summarises Griffith's feelings quite well.
The quote could also be placed at the top of the summary section rather than the very top of the article. I've modeled this format with episode P's article.
TLDR - should we:
- Re-add the quotes sections to the character articles - nice quotes, but superfluous and awkwardly spaced out. Pads out the character articles: Example
- Keep the quotes sections out of the character articles, but reincorporate the contents into key introductory quotes at the top of the manga episode articles - makes the pages consistent with character articles, but looks a little awkward with longer quotes: Example
- Keep the quotes sections out of the character articles, but reincorporate the contents into key introductory quotes at the top of the summary section of the manga episode articles - looks a little awkward with longer quotes, and some episodes don't have summaries, so would look strange alone: Example
- Keep the quotes sections out of the character articles and do not add introductory quotes to the manga episode articles
Or feel free to post an alternative!
I prefer the quotes at the top of the article rather than keeping the sections or having no quotes at all, but at the top of the summary works too. My main concern with doing it at the top of summaries is that some episodes don't have them. That can be remedied, but will take time.